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blackmamba

Right now 87.4 million Americans(29%) already have government health care under Medicare, Medicaid and veterans. This does not include all of the government workers,employees and elected officials like those in Congress. Raising the specter of illegal immigrants is a diversion from a basic fact. Some of our legislators do not want the rest us of us to have access to the same quality affordable health care that they have alongwith those in federal prisons.


Joe Wilson, Glenn Beck, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity all hail from the white supremacist Confederate wing of the Republican party. If they were African American they would be labled hate ful racist extremist who are always playing the race card and banished fromcivil society. Instead like Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond and the Jerry Falwell they show the advantage and privilege of being part of the white Anglo Christian majority.

Corey Miller

Everytime I hear a Republican speak on any issue lately, I seem to think of what it's like to live in complete denial...In denial about healthcare..In denial about what century this is, and in denial about who is President.. Your good old boy days are over...Please get over your shallow ideologies, and do your jobs...

Esther J. Cepeda

People, stop hyperventilating (but thanks to those who did not resort to using the CAPS LOCK key).

Why doesn't anyone get the difference between the federal mandate to provide emergency health care to every and anyone - because we've YET to become the sort of country that let's people die on the street - and long-term partial or full-coverage health insurance that would cover anything from minor illness to catching serious disease in its tracks before it becomes an even costlier issue?

Two separate items.

Illegal aliens would not get coverage under any comprehensive reform.

And yes, we as a nation, will not let people in emergency situations die regardless of race/color/creed/citizenship status - that is not up for discussion in this reform movement.

Suzanne Leaders

Dear Esther, No wonder the Sun Times is going broke. You should be ashamed of yourself, continueing to spread the lies. Of Couse illegals are going to be covered. It is a backdorr amnesty.

Why don't you do so research before you write this propaganda? DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!

Congressional Research Service:

Illegal Aliens Can Receive Benefits Under House Health Care Bill
August 26, 2009

( Washington , DC ) Tuesday, the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the “research arm” for the United States Congress, issued a report validating an analysis by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), that illegal aliens would be able to receive benefits under the House health care reform bill, America’s Affordable Health Care Act of 2009 (H.R. 3200).

The report, Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200, states definitively, “H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens – whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently – participating in the Exchange.” H.R. 3200 establishes a Health Insurance Exchange which would provide individuals and small businesses with access to health care plans, including the “public option” to be managed by the government.

CRS also confirms FAIR’s assessment that the House bill does not include a mechanism to prevent illegal aliens from receiving “affordability credits” that would subsidize the purchase of private health insurance. CRS specifically noted the absence “of a provision in the bill specifying the verification procedure.” Because the language is ambiguous, all CRS could reasonably conclude is that any eligibility determination would be the responsibility of the Health Choices Commissioner.

The CRS analysis comes after weeks of denials by Members of Congress that illegal aliens could receive benefits under the House bill. These denials were echoed by countless media and health care “experts” who dismissed public concerns as myths, or as politically orchestrated attacks.

“Case closed. Illegal aliens will be eligible to participate in the health care program offered by the House bill unless Congress acts to amend the bill,” stated Dan Stein, president of FAIR. “The loopholes and omissions in the House bill are not there by accident,” continued Stein. “These loopholes were intended to extend benefits to illegal aliens while allowing Members of Congress to deny those facts to the American people.”

The House Ways & Means Committee had the opportunity to include language that would have barred illegal aliens from enrolling in the proposed public option or receiving the affordability credits, but chose not to. An amendment offered by Rep. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) would have applied the same eligibility verification procedures for coverage under H.R. 3200 that have been used for years to prove eligibility for Medicaid. That amendment was rejected by a party-line vote.

Based on its own findings and those of CRS, FAIR is calling on Congress to:

Adopt clear language that makes illegal aliens (and nonimmigrants) ineligible for enrollment in publicly funded or subsidized health insurance programs.
Require electronic eligibility verification for any health care reform proposal through the existing Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system.
Maintain a five-year eligibility waiting period for legal immigrants to ensure that individuals don’t come to the U.S. and immediately tap the system.

“For the past month, irate citizens, concerned that their tax dollars will be used to fund health care for illegal aliens, have been unfairly portrayed as uninformed rabble by their elected representatives and a host of media organizations,” said Stein. “It is time for the politicians to close the loopholes, and for the media establishment to acknowledge that they got it wrong.”

Eileen Truax

Great piece, Esther. I'm posting it on my Facebook.

John

Our President did lie last night and more than that one instance that the lone representative called him out on. Although it was rude to interrupt the President while he was speaking, there were numerous times he was interrupted by applause and no one is complaining about that today.

The fact remains that all people receive health care in this country when it is asked for whether you have the ability to pay or not. Under the proposed house bill, all people will still receive health care when asked for. The federal government has the provision that they won't pay for illegal immigrants, who will then when there is only a single payer plan?

The President opened up this can of worms again last night by presenting it in his speech, and clearly does not have the best interests of the needy and poor immigrant communities in mind, quite the opposite by stating that they will be excluded!

Do you really trust this politician called President Obama? If so, be prepared to be disappointed.

Michael Hunt

Esther, this is your best column yet. Well written, chock full of facts, not just opinions, and straight to the point.

I would add only that the applecart protecting angry insured are angry because they are scared. They are scared because the health insurance industry has spent billions (yes, billions) to put more than 50,000 (yes, 50,000) lobbyists into the mix, and has bought or rented (only an honest politician stays bought) voices in both houses of congress to make certain that they are scared.

Misinformation and intimidation are the order of the day, and Rep. Joe Wilson is following orders, not his conscience.

By the way, I am one of the Flaky.

JS

Esther,

I have to paraphrase an old joke, "So other than that, how did like the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

So other than the fundamentalist nuts, did you enjoy the speech? Just wait until the next election cycle when words said with the brain unengaged, to kow tow to the small segment of the insane right, suddenly reappear in campaign ads.

George

Basically, those against healthcare reform are just against Obama. I've started calling this the "Bubba Syndrome."

If you'll recall, the right-wing-nut-jobs did everything they could to get at Pres. Clinton.

Why?

Because he won. Wouldn't have mattered which Democrat won the White House. The Republicans hate losing (we all do, but they've taken things a bit further).

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